dana is here with us. nice to see you. >> thanks, greta, for having me back. >> and let me -- >> wow. >> let me guess, you loved it, right? >> you know, yeah, i guess if you like a nightmare that involves teddy ruxpin and vera de milo's character from the 1990s, if you throw all those things together, it was wonderful. i've never seen anything like that. greta, there's two things that miley needs. everyone in america can agree on, jesus and skwut -- squats. >> i guess i didn't follow her career very much. i just thought, well, this looks like hollywood. this is the kind of junk we're seeing. if you have a history with her and watched her grow up, you're more scandalized than the rest of us, you know, this is never going to clean up at this point. >> well, yeah, and the thing with this, greta, is i don't -- you don't have to be shocking for the sake of shock in order to be artistic. it seems a lot of entertainment thinks vulgarity is somehow a substitute for skill or talent and it's not. during the same eve